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	<title>Comments on: VWFA KL shelves gallery move</title>
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	<description>Following Art Wherever It Goes &#124; Sama-sama Ikut Seni</description>
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		<title>By: Yusuf</title>
		<link>http://www.arterimalaysia.com/2009/12/02/vwfa-kl-shelves-gallery-move/#comment-10750</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then &#039;Goatse&#039; our differences are made manifest.  

I reiterate that it is the exhibitions that I wish to review, that I do not read the reviews to, until after writing.  Not all reviews.  

It is too easy to be influenced by others&#039; ideas, style etc.  It was the way I was taught, and it works for me.  

As for &#039;facts&#039; surely they are gained from visiting the exhibition and research, rather than others&#039; reviews.

High and Low, yes spurious concepts at the best of times - as the exhibition of that very same name indicated - 1990.

True, Dada, and later Surrealism, turned the Art world on its head - they were, after all, the part of the origins of so-called post-modernism.  &#039;Art&#039; became more inclusive of other ideas, other cultures, subjectivity, psychoanalysis.  

However for &#039;Art&#039;to really be free it had to also break away from the tyranny of Andre Breton.  To some extent Salvidor Dali, that showman, egoist and George Bataille pointed the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then &#8216;Goatse&#8217; our differences are made manifest.  </p>
<p>I reiterate that it is the exhibitions that I wish to review, that I do not read the reviews to, until after writing.  Not all reviews.  </p>
<p>It is too easy to be influenced by others&#8217; ideas, style etc.  It was the way I was taught, and it works for me.  </p>
<p>As for &#8216;facts&#8217; surely they are gained from visiting the exhibition and research, rather than others&#8217; reviews.</p>
<p>High and Low, yes spurious concepts at the best of times &#8211; as the exhibition of that very same name indicated &#8211; 1990.</p>
<p>True, Dada, and later Surrealism, turned the Art world on its head &#8211; they were, after all, the part of the origins of so-called post-modernism.  &#8216;Art&#8217; became more inclusive of other ideas, other cultures, subjectivity, psychoanalysis.  </p>
<p>However for &#8216;Art&#8217;to really be free it had to also break away from the tyranny of Andre Breton.  To some extent Salvidor Dali, that showman, egoist and George Bataille pointed the way.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.arterimalaysia.com/2009/12/02/vwfa-kl-shelves-gallery-move/#comment-10673</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear Ming,

As far as I&#039;m aware of, there will no longer be a project room. Shame. 

Best
Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Ming,</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m aware of, there will no longer be a project room. Shame. </p>
<p>Best<br />
Simon</p>
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		<title>By: goatse</title>
		<link>http://www.arterimalaysia.com/2009/12/02/vwfa-kl-shelves-gallery-move/#comment-10671</link>
		<dc:creator>goatse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh to me it does but heck Yusuf:P if we are here in arteri and in the art world, it&#039;s because we are elitists in pursuit of higher things in life. 

I guess how we define &#039;high&#039; is the tricky bit eversince Dada types flipped everything side-up down. In another example, I remain &#039;goatse&#039; and a variety of nicks because I think it allows for me to present my ideas without others and myself worrying who or where in the art scene I am coming from or trying to go. I just want to get my ideas across without prejudice or slef-promotional interest. Excuse me again if it came across as mere mud slinging and personal attacks. I am very interested to hear more on your ideas on art. 

Since we&#039;ve already migrated our mini debate, I would also like to add that my position on &#039;reviews&#039; is also the opposite of yours. Normally, I would not read wall labels, artist, or curator&#039;s texts either but in the case of a review, i think it would be more interesting that after the initial &#039;innocent eye&#039; viewing of the show, I&#039;d scrutinize the published literature. It&#039;s necessary simply to verify basic facts that will be retransmitted to the viewer, as well as to allow for more communal debate over culture. Of course, it&#039;s not necessary to do this all the time, probably not necessary at all for a free blog submission, but I wouldn&#039;t be brave as to use the word &#039;never&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh to me it does but heck Yusuf:P if we are here in arteri and in the art world, it&#8217;s because we are elitists in pursuit of higher things in life. </p>
<p>I guess how we define &#8216;high&#8217; is the tricky bit eversince Dada types flipped everything side-up down. In another example, I remain &#8216;goatse&#8217; and a variety of nicks because I think it allows for me to present my ideas without others and myself worrying who or where in the art scene I am coming from or trying to go. I just want to get my ideas across without prejudice or slef-promotional interest. Excuse me again if it came across as mere mud slinging and personal attacks. I am very interested to hear more on your ideas on art. </p>
<p>Since we&#8217;ve already migrated our mini debate, I would also like to add that my position on &#8216;reviews&#8217; is also the opposite of yours. Normally, I would not read wall labels, artist, or curator&#8217;s texts either but in the case of a review, i think it would be more interesting that after the initial &#8216;innocent eye&#8217; viewing of the show, I&#8217;d scrutinize the published literature. It&#8217;s necessary simply to verify basic facts that will be retransmitted to the viewer, as well as to allow for more communal debate over culture. Of course, it&#8217;s not necessary to do this all the time, probably not necessary at all for a free blog submission, but I wouldn&#8217;t be brave as to use the word &#8216;never&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: yusuf</title>
		<link>http://www.arterimalaysia.com/2009/12/02/vwfa-kl-shelves-gallery-move/#comment-10663</link>
		<dc:creator>yusuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having attempted to access one exhibition at Central Market Annex, I am so glad that VWFA have changed their minds.

At the risk of being called a &#039;snob&#039; yet again, I didn&#039;t feel that the annex was a suitable venue for such an up-market gallery.

No disrespect to Central Market Annex, but it is telling that I have been there once, recently, and to the Bangsar gallery many many times, even though, technically, for me, it is more difficult to reach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having attempted to access one exhibition at Central Market Annex, I am so glad that VWFA have changed their minds.</p>
<p>At the risk of being called a &#8217;snob&#8217; yet again, I didn&#8217;t feel that the annex was a suitable venue for such an up-market gallery.</p>
<p>No disrespect to Central Market Annex, but it is telling that I have been there once, recently, and to the Bangsar gallery many many times, even though, technically, for me, it is more difficult to reach.</p>
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		<title>By: ming</title>
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		<dc:creator>ming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they closing down the project room?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they closing down the project room?</p>
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